Letter from J. Beatty to Edward Carson, 16 October 1916
My name
not to be
disclosed.
J. Beatty. 19 Mary Street
Clonmel
Ireland 16:10:16
To
The Rt. Hon. Sir E. Carson K.C.M.P. Sir. I beg to send you a few particulars
of events in Ireland which may
be of use to you in the debate on
Redmond's motion, which i notice is
to take place on Wednesday next.
Please do not disclose my name
as I could not live here if you did:- On Sunday 24 thSeptr. there was
a hurling and football tournament
in Limerick City. Excursion trains
had been arranged to bring
contingents 2 from Dublin and other parts, but
these were all cancelled ont the 23rd
Sept. Still large crowds came
from Limerick County Clare &
Tipperary. When the tournament
concluded over a thousand young
men "fell in" to order in the football
field and marched through the
City (Limerick) in military order.
This large crown halted in front of
William St. Police Barracks and
cheered and shouted for Sinn
Feinn and the Dublin Rebels.
When they satisfied themselves
they marched away. The authorities
did not interfere; and I have
not heard that any one was
made amenable for this disloyal
and rebellious demonstration. On the following Sunday (1:10:16)
the Counties of Limerick and
Tipperary played their finals
in Dungarvan. The excursions
to Dungarvan were not restricted.
There were ten thousand people
present according to the Clonmel
Nationalist & Chronicle. Crowds
of these young men sang rebel
songs, and cheered for Sinn
Fein and the Dublin Rebels
in the public streets. In the house Public house of
a man named Coughlan
which was open during the
evening, seditious speeches
were delivered, and the
health of the Kaiser toasted
by a man standing on a
porter barrel and responded
to with the greatest enthusiasm 3 by crowds inside and outside the house,
and nothing has been done since by the
authorities. This matter has barely
been reported: the Inspector in
Waterford has a peculiar way of doing
things. He wants to please the
R.C. bishop & clergy. I hear he
acted in the capacity of a steward
and not as a police officer at Mr.
Redmond's meeting. He stood on
the platform in Uniform and
surveyed those in the hall before
Mr Redmond appeared. You may make any use you like
of this information which is true
but you will please keep my name
a secret. I could not live here if it
were known I wrote this. I am an
Ex. Sergt. of RIC & now an Inspector
in the N.S.P.C.C. I hear and see a lot.
If this kind of matter is any use I
would gladly supply more. I am Sir
Yours obediently T. Beatty
Letter from J. Beatty to Edward Carson (1854-1935). Carson was a prominent Unionist Politician. Originally a practicing solicitor from Dublin, Carson's opposition to the proposed third Home Rule bill made him the figure head of Unionism throughout the island. He was the centerpiece of the speaking tour that culminated in Ulster Day (28 September 1912), when just under half a million signed Ulster's solemn league and covenant pledging to use ‘all means which may be found necessary to defeat the present conspiracy to set up a home rule parliament in Dublin’. Carson inaugurated the Larne gunrunning in 1914 which armed the UVF, many of whom Carson would encourage to join the British Army throughout the First World War.
- J. Beatty
- Edward Carson
- 1916-10-16
- Politics Country and City Life
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Letters 1916, published by the Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities, Vienna, 2026 (https://letters1916static.github.io/letters1916-static/item__4374.html)
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- Place
- 19 Mary Street, Clonmel, Co. Tipperary, Ireland
- Mentioned in
- Letter from J. Beatty to Edward Carson, 16 October 1916