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            <title type="main">Letter from Michael O'Riordan to Bishop E. T. O'Dwyer, 23 October 1916</title>
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               <p>This letter was written by Monsignor Michael O'Riordan (1857-1919), rector at the Irish College in Rome, to Bishop Edward Thomas O'Dwyer (1842-1917), who served as the Bishop of Limerick from 1888 until his death.

In this letter O’Riordan discusses a statement which he released. He claims to have written it for the Italian mind and has sent copies to those Bishops mentioned in it. In the letter O'Riordan expresses a desire for the nations to give up fighting. </p>
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             Irish College <lb/>Rome   Oct 28<hi rend="superscript">th</hi> 1916    My Lord Bishop   Your letter, with enclosed, <lb/>has just come. I shall make <lb/>the presentation in due time; <lb/>and shall convey your message <lb/>also. I notice that the sum <lb/>is much larger than usual; <lb/>which also I shall bring under <lb/>his notice.   I am glad you liked <lb/>my statement. Of course I write <lb/>it for the Italian mind; &amp; therefore
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            I omitted things which would <lb/>speak much to persons in <lb/>Ireland &amp; in England; but <lb/>which would mean nothing to <lb/>an Italian, or perhaps make <lb/>him misunderstand. I have <lb/>sent copies to the Bishops <lb/>whom I have mentioned in it; <lb/>also to a few who know Italian.   It is quite time the <lb/>nations gave up fighting. They <lb/>would be the laughing-stock <lb/>of Europe, if all Europe was <lb/>not engaged in the butchery; <lb/>— nobody is left out to laugh.   Is it not a great lesson in <lb/>fractional civilisation?   Experimental science has achieved <lb/>astonishing results for the benefit <lb/>of mankind; then comes the <lb/><hi rend="underline">un-civilised will</hi> (without religion) <lb/>and uses these results for <lb/>man's destruction   The late Fr Phelan, the famous <lb/>editor of the <hi rend="underline">Western Watchman</hi> <lb/>of Milwaukee, U.S.A., defined <lb/>modern civilisation as " the <lb/>improved methods of reciprocal <lb/>butchery". He was an exact <lb/>thinker.   We have just come back <lb/>from Tivili.<lb/> We begin our Retreat
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            tomorrow and come ending it <lb/>on Nov 1<hi rend="superscript">st.</hi>. On Nov 1<hi rend="superscript">st</hi> I <lb/>will be here eleven years. How <lb/>fast time runs, when duties <lb/>multiply! —    I am yours obediently   M O'Riordan   P.S. <lb/>I have sent a full <lb/>report (un-censored) of your <lb/>reply to the Corporation. I asked <lb/>if there was such: and I have got <lb/>it. <seg type="unclear">Hoping</seg> be useful here.   I have had some strong letters from <lb/>some Cardinals in my Statement <lb/>Card. Maffi asked me for more <lb/>copies. I am glad I did it. Those <lb/><seg type="unclear">here</seg> will have known the <hi rend="underline">facts</hi>, before <lb/>Card. Gasquet, or Paul de Salis bring <seg type="unclear">fancies</seg>. 
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